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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 6:23 a.m.

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CLARENCE, NY (AP) -- Family and friends piled flowers at a makeshift roadside memorial Monday afternoon to grieve the deaths of four teens who died in a car crash in western New York.

Police say an 18-year-old with a passion for cars apparently sped through a stop sign and collided with a minivan, killing himself and three friends Sunday night in the Buffalo suburb of Clarence.

Viktor Shapiro and 16-year-old Amanda Slisz, both of Amherst, were thrown from the 2002 Nissan Sentra. Neither was wearing a seat belt. Also killed were 19-year-old Mark Brown of Getzville and 16-year-old Megan Schnorr of Amherst.

Police identified the couple in the minivan as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60s, of Tonawanda. Grimmer was released from Erie County Medical Center Monday afternoon while his wife remained in fair condition.

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Every vehicle is a potential weapon.

Posted by Gloria Almeida, Amherst - Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 5:26 p.m.

Approximately 20% of the population will die in a car accident. As we all know or should know, a vehicle is a weapon. I've driven for approximately 30 years and some of the most dangerous and aggressive drivers are tailgaters. If you drive the posted speed limit, these tailgaters like to ride on your a--. The second most dangerous and ignorant drivers are those unwillingly to yield the left lane which is for people who want to pass. Let them go and you will have far less hostility on the road.
The deaths of these four young people is heart breaking.
Which one of us who drive a vehicle can honestly say that we have never driven 10 or more miles over the speed limit.
I tested it numerous times on the highway. Most people drive 10 or more miles faster than the speed limit.
The driver of the vehicle might have been more reckless than the average driver, but any of us can die on the road any day due to drivers who are drunk or under the influence, emotional drivers, drivers who are distracted with cell phones and text messaging, and vehicle defects.
Poverty does contribute to expired inspections and registrations and this is why I think we should go back to yearly registrations and 4 year drivers license.
As far as the comment that senior citizens should be tested for a drivers license every year, I think that is an agist comment. Seniors might drive slow, but young drivers are far more reckless and I'm sure this is backed by statistics. Finally, may God be with those who are suffering at this time due to the premature deaths of these four young people. Also, I pray for the speedy recovery of the elderly couple. In particular, the elderly woman.
In closing, I think it would be remiss not to make an attempt to correct the problem of this particular intersection in Clarence. After all, if the homeowners near this intersection are concerned about the safety of this intersection because of their children, the speed limit should be reduced to 35 or 40 or a blinking light should be placed there. Four accidents in 8 years seems a little high! I've driven in some of these country roads in Clarence in the day time and I think some of the roads are too narrow and the stops signs too many for 45 mph.

awful

Posted by s p, marcellus - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 5:56 a.m.

This same thing happened to a group of my friends 10 years ago.Going way too fast and now they are dead and it still hurts to think about those wasted young lives. As the rest of us grew up, got married and had our own children, each new experience makes us think about all the stuff they never got to do. Maybe a limit on how many passengers a teen can have would help.

sadd story, bad opinions

Posted by not important, liverpool, ny - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.

It doesnt depend on age, its your maturity level. Adults also speed so dont blame it on us younger ones. Yes, alot of people 16 or 17 think its "cool" to speed but so do people in their 20's. I'm 17, and got my license not to long ago, i agree you should be 17 to be able to drive, but age shouldnt be a factor. 16 is the age before maturity.

Kids driving..

Posted by Jenn S, Jordan - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 12:55 p.m.

driving test 'every year' at 18 ?..... driving shouldn't even BE considered until kids are AT LEAST 18 or 19 ! Not givin out when they're 16. They all think they're invincable, at 16.."nothing will happen to me".. at least at 18 / 19, they have SOME maturity under their belts, and realize that things CAN happen to them ! And yes..seniors SHOULD have a driving test every year! There's more proof of that, every day!

18-year-olds

Posted by Sam Levenson, Syracuse - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.

should have a driving test EVERY year. Some want this for seniors. Bigots.

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